Where the Peril is Greatest
“Where the peril is greatest, there lies the saving power also” – Hölderlin
Hölderlin’s proverb is quite true, and the truth of it is the subject of today’s post on The Chrysalis. We will continue also with our attempt to gain deeper insight into what Jean Gebser means by the “deficient” and the “effective” modes of a consciousness structure as a “civilisational type” so that there is no confusion about this.
Another way of reflecting on Gebser’s terms “deficient” and “effective” is in terms of infidelity to the true and fidelity to the true, respectivey. The latter — fidelity to the true and the real — is what he calls “verition” or “being-in-truth”, whereas the deficient mode of functioning and realisation corresponds to what Stephen Colbert termed “truthiness” — an aberrant or perverse mode ofrealisation of the true and the real. The Devil is a mimic, and the mimicry of the true and the real is the aberrant realisation of it. But the “saving power” that might rescue us from total dissolution already resides within the dissolute or disintegrative condition.
Gebser’s view of the situation and the potential for a transmutation of consciousness is very Hermetic or alchemical in conception. The alchemist likewise acknowledges that the seed-germ of the noble element is already latent or implicate within the ignoble or base element and must be activated, usually by passage through the crucible. Likewise Hölderlin’s proverb is very Hermetic in conception in realising that the saving power already resides within the perilous condition and can act as a kind of leavening to condition and transform the perilous condition.
William Blake actually illustrates that beautifully in a passage in The Marriage of Heaven and Hell where he transmutes the horrific and violent vision of the monster Leviathan in Hell imposed upon him into a serene scene by an act of spiritual alchemy. That is something at which Nietzsche was also quite accomplished and which he credited to his “ability to switch perspectives”, as he put it.
So let’s examine a few instances of the “deficient” and “effective” modes of functioning in our time and see how they likewise correspond to infidelity and fidelity to the true, and thus to the opacity and transparency of our perception by extension.
Narcissism and the culture of narcissism is perhaps our present greatest obstacle to authentic self-realisation and certainly to the emergence of integral consciousness. But there is a paradoxical and ambiguous situation here. Narcissism is the aberrant or perverse mode of full self-realisation rather than its stark antithesis. It is the process of self-realisation gone awry, but in which still resides the drive towards self-realisation which only seizes upon aberrant and perverse means for that. In other words, it is a mimic of the real thing. Mimicry is how the Devil goes about his work, as it were. This is what Almaas describes with his own work on narcissistic personality disorders in his book The Point of Existence, pointedly subtitled “Transformations of Narcissism in Self-Realization“. Awakening is thus to awaken to the kernel of truth that is already within its fallen or aberrant state of realisation and its rescue from what Rosenstock-Huessy calls “amalgamate false natures”.
So narcissism can be a state or phase in the process of authentic self-realisation.
Likewise the issue of “unity”. Unity may be achieved through an authentic integrality or via uniformity. But uniformity is a false, deficient or aberrant mode of realisation of essential oneness or integrality. The fascist confuses unity with uniformity — an aberrant or deficient understanding of integrality, which confusion is, of course, related to the aberrancy of narcissistic mind.
The Lie works because of its resemblance to the truth, and that is what is described by the term “truthiness”. This is why so many can be, and are, misled into aberrancy.
Blake’s Zoa “Urizen” is likewise this — evil only to the extent he has become the aberrancy of the good and the true personified — the image of Gebser’s “deficient mode” of the current “mental-rational” or “perspectival” consciousness structure. But his redemption as an integral part of “Albion” is the recovery of his true and authentic nature — his membership in the integral fourfold, even though that redemption passes through the crucible of horror, darkness and Urizen’s madness before it is accomplished.
And that is very much how Gebser sees our own process of transition playing out on the way to integral consciousness and the “diaphainon” as described in The Ever-Present Origin.
We can, then, consider the “deficient mode” and the “effective mode” of functioning in terms of infidelity and fidelity to the true and the real, bearing in mind that the infidelity is a aberrant or perverse mode of truth realisation. “Verition” and “being-in-truth” is Gebser’s term for the fidelity or effective mode of the integral consciousness.
So, the transformative potential is already implicit or latent in the aberrant or deficient modality, hidden within or behind the camouflage and which, in Blake’s imagery, must be burned away to reveal the truth hid within it.
Might also mention in relation to the theme of this post the remark by Rumi that “the cure for the disease is in the disease”.
“Where the peril is greatest, there lies the saving power also” – Hölderlin
Or
“The cure for the disease is in the disease” — Rumi
Both insights also inform Jung’s principle of “enantiodromia”. In many respects, Gebser’s “irruption” is the workings of enantiodromia.
A lot of people seem to believe they have a “god-given right” to greediness, only they will never say that frankly and will find all sorts of ways to put lipstick on the pig.
I have noticed since I was a kid that paying taxes can convince people that they are entitled to everything.
As David Loy pointed out, greed has been institutionalized. Yet another reason I absolutely adore that offhand comment of yours: “Our institutions will be the last to change.”
Seriously, I must have that emblazoned on a T-shirt. It’s the only hope we have at this point as our intsitutions are notriously slow to change and adapt compared to the humans who found them.
“Strange times are these in which we live when old and young are taught falsehoods in school. And the person that dares to tell the truth is called at once a lunatic and fool”
― Plato
Fires will be kindled to testify that two and two make four. Swords will be drawn to prove that leaves are green in summer.
G.K. Chesterton
Something you might also find interesting in that connection
https://symbioticculturelab.super.site/
Indeed. Thank you.
BTB: Think we’ll ever stop referring to real transformation as “bottom-up” to the exclusion of inside-out?
A good summary of Iain McGilchrist’s neurodynamics:
https://footnotes2plato.com/2022/10/13/the-matter-with-things-by-iain-mcgilchrist/
“Consciousness is the inside of the whole world-process.” Pretty sure they reached this conclusion in India a few thousand years ago. It’s been pretty baffling to me watching the western mind awkwardly circle around this.
Citing George Grant from *Technology and Empire*:
“That conquering relation to place has left its mark within us. When we go into the Rockies we may have the sense that gods are there. But if so, they cannot manifest themselves to us as ours. They are the gods of another race .and we cannot know them because of what we are and what we did. There can be nothing immemorial for us except the environment as object. Even our cities have been encampments on the road to economic mastery.”
“Let us put our heads together and see what life we will make for our children”. · Tatanka Iotanka (Sitting Bull)
What a great tragedy that his invitation was rebuffed. The consequences have been terrible, as described too by George Grant. Yet, not too late to accept his invitation to create a unique civilisation on this continent.
My heart breaks when I think about that, and how his invitation was rebuffed and ignored. Such a tragedy. But the modern type has lost even a sense for the tragic.
I think you could say that the modern type has lost his mind. I feel you Scott, but i’m afraid that what’s coming will break your heart beyond repair.
It’s quite possible to mitigate that heartbreak by focusing more on the seedlings springing up everywhere that require nurturing as opposed to the foundation cracks and ashes they’re growing in and through
Infant joy
By William Blake
I have no name ,
I am but two days old-
What shall I call thee ?
I happy am ,
Joy is my name-
Sweet joy befall thee!
Pretty joy!
Sweet joy but two days old,
Sweet joy I call thee;
Thou dost smile ,
I sing the while
Sweet joy befall thee.
From songs of innocence 1789
Nature’s code, amazing.
https://gizmodo.com/physicists-got-a-quantum-computer-to-work-by-blasting-i-1849328463
Really good video on a wonderful movie. It relates to narcissism, a theme much touched on here.
Paterson is my inspiration.
Kinda funny how that movie is so “small” yet sticks with you afterwards and these “huge” tent pole movies are mostly entirely forgotten after you are done with them.
“The fine arts are one of the most sensitive mirrors of society and culture of which they are an important part. What society and culture are, such will their fine arts be. If the culture is predominantly sensate, sensate also will be its dominant fine arts. If the culture is unintegrated, chaotic and eclectic also will be its fine arts. Since contemporary Western culture is predominantly sensate, and since the crisis consists in the disintegration of its dominant supersystem, so the contemporary crisis in the fine arts must also exhibit a desintegration of the sensate form of our painting and sculpture, music, literature, drama and architecture.”
― Pitirim Sorokin
I’ve been trying to point out for years that the “pop culture” zeitgeist/art of the People is reflecting the Apocalyptic mood of our time in a big way. It’s fairly obvious us Westerners largely have forgotten a distinction between Apocalypse and Armageddon even exists, much less of what that distinction consists, but maybe we’ll remember at some point.
“Post-apocalyptic” fiction, movies, games, etc. are all the rage today. I viewed a YouTube video just yesterday in which a young man notes that he’s not playing games, e.g. the classic S.T.A.L.K.E.R. series to “escape” anymore, but to deepen his connection with gamers all over the world, especially in light of recent events in Russia and the Ukraine, and that it’s possible now due to the very nature of communication via the Internet.
Unfortunately, as I also noted last, our Arts and Entertainment mediums themselves are falling down on the job for the most part — not really helping at all so much as feeding into the anxiety and paranoia when not trivializing “the Apocalypse” to such an extent that it actually becomes boring and monotonous, as Noah Caldwell-Gervais pointed out in his video essay about Fallout ’76.
I think there’s a reason for this and that reason is that the ideology of Neoliberalism actually has “swallowed the world” — just like Jonah’s whale — and our Arts and Entertainment studios are being gobbled up, centralized, homogenized and lorded over by behemoth, multinational corporations, e.g. Disney, Paramount, Ubisoft, Microsoft and Electronic Arts.
That’s what happened to Bioware; that’s what’s happened to Bethesda; that’s what’s happening to CDProjekt Red. Independent studios don’t stand a chance. All the more reason to support them.
Can anyone tell me why all eyes are apprently glued to the midterm elections of the US? Anybody?
My guess would be that people want to know if voters are going to punish the Republicans for Roe v Wade?
Some Republicans have come out with criticism that the party is overly focused on “wedge” issues and pleasing Trump loyalists. (No kidding. Duh.)
Here’s the thing: what’s right in the eyes of one community is dead wrong in the eyes of another. Republicans are well-known in local communities for their ability to get things done, e.g. widening that one-lane bridge just begging for a tragic disaster, etc,. as opposed to sitting around talking for years about whether or how best to get it done. They’re very pracitcal and pragmatic that way. That doesn’t work so well on a national level, though, where the sensibilities of all communities of every kind must be taken into account in order to find the common good and promote the general welfare.
Perhaps their experiences of the past few years will make that more obvious to them. I very much doubt we’ve seen the last of stagnation and entropy in Washington, though, given how hard the DNC and RNC have worked to shut out everyone else.
Kinda quiet around here. Perfect time, maybe? Doesn’t matter. Enjoy! https://youtu.be/tH2w6Oxx0kQ
https://geniusrevive.com/en/philosophers-about-creativity/
https://www.thecenterforsophiologicalstudies.com/post/on-the-edge-of-the-unthinkable-an-interview-with-owen-barfield
Two months and counting. Hope our host is doing fine and still beating the fourfold drum rhythm into the heads of everyone he knows (and some he doesn’t). ^.^ Where would be without our “different drummer? “
Had a pretty rough november, but on the upswing again. Am even planning a new post for the blog.
Spiritual Intelligence in Seven Steps. Out now.
Between this post and your upcoming post the world has gotten much stranger.
Recommend you give this a listen: “Consciousness beyond brain function” — a neurosurgeon’s account of his own near-death experience
How the telescope radically changed our worldview and place in the cosmos, something will be invented that will allow us to see Energy/Consciousness at work in the world outside of the brain and then seeing will be believing for the rational materialists.
If they can’t see that now just by “looking within” — at the delicately balanced, natural ecosystem in all its expressions as well as that of the Cosmos itself — there’s certainly no convincing them. That’s not something that can be seen with the eyes or measured with scientific instruments. That’s why Siddhartha Gautama, Jesus of Nazareth, Shams Tabrizi, et alia, no doubt had their students stare at flowers and such until they saw the reflection of themselves in them. The Essence of all “things” is not a physical property. Simple, unimpeded awareness is enough to “see” that. And that’s that.
On the bright side, the “rational materialists” have lost an awful of influence over the past few decades or so, especially considering the unpleasantness of the more “strident” toward absolutely everything and everyone who is not their cup of tea.
“The Essence of all “things” is not a physical property. Simple, unimpeded awareness is enough to “see” that. And that’s that.”
I personally think we are going to evolve to have these faculties turned inside out, and first it will happen with some sort of apparatus. That’s not working collectively and Evolution always finds a way.
Hmm. Well, if that “apparatus” is the human species of consciousness turned inside-out, I’d tend to agree. It already comes through in our art and music and literature, compassion for one another, etc. The “evolutionary lit boys,” et alia, probably can’t see that yet, but maybe will eventually.
Was saying mostly that things will be invented like super sensory contacts etc.that will allow regular humans to see deeper into the world (like visionary artists as you mentioned) and a more connected to Earth culture could come out of that. I do think there’s something in between we aren’t seeing and can’t see yet, but feel as you’ve mentioned and maybe that’s the kind of technology we should be trying for instead of bigger bombs and stealth planes looking more and more like ufos, lol.
I wouldn’t worry too much about the “more connected to Earth culture.” It already exists and appears to be thriving. There’s evidence of it everywhere, as noted in the “Quiet Revolution” introductory video. I don’t even feel like I have to keep such a vigilant watch for it anymore. Personally, I find the “techno-logy is a panacea that will cure all our ills” crowd somewhat worrisome considering so many of them hold positions of great power, influence and (usually unwarranted) authority.
Huh, I don’t see that, maybe I’m looking in the wrong places. Subtle technology would be a nice flip so the Lonnie Musks of the world don’t turn this world into the movie Demolition Man.
We’re not out of peril. That’s for sure. “Business as usual” continues apace…as per usual. It’s not a race, though, I don’t think. The younger generations most assuredly have caught on…at least, those who haven’t been caught up in “business as usual” themselves.
Helena Norberg-Hodge described “an almost biological hunger” among us for communal bonds; a sense of belonging; a sense of place; etc. in that introductory video. (<– Highly recommend.) People will find that at their own pace; in their own place; and in their own ways.
I'm guessing most people haven't really noticed for the simple reason that it is so quiet — arriving on little dove's feet, as it were.
Keanu Reeves has the best answer for what happens after we die:
Simple and honest.
The New consciousness struggling to emerge has need of the old in the same way the child needs its mother’s womb. But it requires the forces of resistance as well. They are its unwilling helpers. If it be accepted that a renewal of mans inner condition is under way, then we should be on the lookout for these hindering helpers, since they will betray just where the new is appearing. Once identified, they will reveal what it is they are trying to suppress. And hence, in a way as well, they are compelled to serve us against their will.
Hermann Poppelbaum
Wonderful quote. Thanks.
The book I got that quote from is..”The Battle for a New Consciousness” by Hermann Poppelbaum. He was a direct student of Rudolf Steiner…
Reading a wonderful book, “The Medieval Mind of C.S. Lewis: How Great Books Shaped A Great Mind.”By Jason M. Baxter.
The experience of nostalgia is a feeling of beauty’s remoteness, but only because it is so far into the future, rooted “deep down things.” It is hope. And the great thing about true hope, this nostalgia for the future, is that it has none of the irritability, fear, anxiety, and discouragement that flavors many of the words of those who describe the demise of Christendom in our day. We were denied the garden, and then we were exiled from the the enchanted cosmos. Now we must own our modernity. But by doing so, we engage in an extraordinary ascesis of the senses. We must look forward and move beyond.
Jason M. Baxter.. The Medieval Mind of C.S. Lewis
https://peachykeenan.substack.com/p/pubic-art
Hi Scott! Hope you’re doing well. Here’s a blog post from John Michael Greer, which I think may be interesting for you:
https://www.ecosophia.net/against-enchantment-i-ken-wilber/
Thanks Risto. Largely agree with that assessment of Wilber. As you may know I’ve been quite critical of his “integralism” myself, and his mistakes in his understanding of Gebser’s own history of consciousness and is inability to shake off Cartesianism.
I’m on a real roller-coaster now, physically. Some up days, some very down days. I also have to move soon, so things have been unsettled for some time, and I regret not having as much time for the blog as formerly. I’m likely to have to go on dialysis soon as well, so everything is quite unsettled at the moment.
Blessings for your hardships!
Not to worry about the blog. Not only is the fourfold firmly established within its (and the former’s) pages, seems it’s readers are more than happy to keep it going for you (sort of) for the time being. : )
Nuttin’ to worry about. Be well.
https://lifesignalacupuncture.com/page/primordial-medicine-within/
https://themothermedicine.com/
Scott this is the kidney health thing I mentioned before and you can zoom. It doesn’t matter if your condition is genetic this can help.
Western medicine is going through it’s own “dark night of the soul” from what I gather, with “objective” theories taking precedence over more “subjective” theories, so to speak, in every field. Pretty sure it has something to do with McGilchrist’s, et alia, “Divided Brain,” but don’t quote me on that. 😉
Hopefully, a fruitful balance will be struck soon. Meanwhile, the best we can do is take as good care ourselves as possible.
It’s been said many a times before, but worth noting again that the problem “out there” is because of a problem “in here” and it all boils down to us mastering the equipment. Is not all the consciousness talk, neuroscience, divided brain etc. that’s running the day not just that? Exciting times for people that want to dig in, even just watching the breakdown outside because of the faulty use of the equipment inside is something to behold and quite incredible, YES to it all even the current ills we’re in collectively. When everything is at war with itself surely something is trying to come forward. Be well all.
It’s made it somewhat intelligible. I’d put it that way. Were it not intelligible; were we not able to see and understand and converse about it as it is, there’d be no question of it’s culminating in a complete “global catastrophe”. And, though it still might and what’s emerging from the detritus may be “aborted,” in Gebser’s terms, that’s in no way assured. I find that reassuring.
Click to access McDermott_Philosophy%20as%20Spiritual%20Discipline.pdf
https://www.google.com/books/edition/From_Normal_to_Healthy/arX0ReUctQMC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PT7&printsec=frontcover
We can still grow up. Despite all, we can learn how the world works and learn to be good animals, not fallen angels. We have not lost the ability, which is innate, but only missed the chance.”
Paul Shepard
“In recent years I have wondered, after an occasional late-night dip into Lewis Mumford, if I would ever meet up with another thinker whose work competes with that of my chosen mentor. The challenge, I thought, would surely extend beyond mere intelligence, grasp of detail, or sweep of vision; the contender would have to be a writer, articulate and passionate. As reader, I would–by my own intolerance of the ecstasy of ideas–have to drop the book into my lap every few pages and breathe.
Who would guess that the earnest professor pacing back and forth before the chalkboard in Biology 101 would, twenty-five years later, emerge as Mumford’s match….He was tall, bearded, preoccupied. Oh sure, we dissected the frogs, collected the butterflies, and debated nature vs. nurture. But there was something else. Paul Shepard was the only college teacher I ever knew to take the class into the wilds, all the while seeding our minds with dangerously holistic notions like ecology.
[Years later] Nature and Madness changed my work and days….Mumford’s brilliance carved a crystalline picture of what is wrong with mass technological civilization and our lives within it. Shepard sanctioned this view, deepened it with rare psycho-historical insight–and then went on to open the door to what could be right. I remember the moment distinctly. I was lying on the couch in my office, a luscious July breeze blowing in through the door, alternately reading the book and dropping it in my lap to breathe.
In the ideology of farming, he offered, wild things are enemies of the tame; the wild Other is not the context but the opponent of ‘my’ domain. Impulses, fears, and dreams–the realm of the unconscious–no longer are represented by the community of wild things with which I can work out a meaningful relationship. The unconscious is driven deeper and away with the wilderness. New definitions of the self by trade and political subordination in part replace the metaphoric reciprocity between natural and cultural in the totemic life of the hunter-foragers. But the new system defines by exclusion. What had been a complementary entity embracing friendly and dangerous parts of a unified cosmos now takes on the colors of hostility and fragmentation. The unconscious is driven deeper and away with the wilderness! In one fell swoop, the psychosocial dynamic of the contemporary world revealed!” —Chellis Glendinning
Be patient toward all that is unsolved in your heart and try to love the questions themselves like locked rooms and like books that are written in a very foreign tongue. Do not now seek the answers, which cannot be given you because you would not be able to live them. And the point is, to live everything. Live the questions now. Perhaps gradually, without noticing it, you will live along some distant day into the answer.
~Rainer Maria Rilke, Letters to a Young Poet
https://www.thefp.com/p/how-ideologues-infiltrated-the-arts
If we loose the arts we are doomed. And Hollywood is woke as
f—. We are on the 11th Fast and Furious for god sakes.
I think it is true that there have always been artists who view their work as political. Blake was one of them, although there is more to his art than his politics. That being said, using the funding to funnel artists into making their art about a particular political philosophy if they don’t want to is pretty concerning.
Wel…truth in advertising is not dead yet, at least. I haven’t played the original Outer Worlds and imagine Obsidian is under just as much pressure to monetize and colonize everything and everyone that can be monetized and colonized as its peers following its Xbox acquistion and perhaps even before, which makes the teaser trailer for The Outer Worlds 2 [runtime: 1:38], shown at Microsoft’s E3 2021 presentation, just…. well, just watch it. Classic Obsidian. https://youtu.be/AQt-NjR-a3k
That was awesome. I have found trailers to be utterly boring for years and this one makes it very clear why that is.
Too formulaic? lol I’ve never bothered with E3, but can just imagine this sandwiched in among all the super-serious, “cinematic,” supposed gameplay trailers being shown of games still in development if not even in the early planning stages. The narrator was probably describing the true state of most of them and parodying the industry to boot. Love it.
Of course, that being said, I have wondered over the years whether or not DEI is just another part of the transformation of consciousness or just more left-hemisphere style bureaucracy. I never came to any firm conclusions on this one.
Mentioned this essay earlier. Worth reviewing again. Frank Waldo’s “The Central Problem of Modern Man” from Commentary Magazine just after WWII, when they ran a series of 12 essays presciently entitled “The Crisis of the Individual”.
The problem described by Waldo has only intensified over these decades to today’s incoherence. Still a good diagnosis of the essential condition, though.
https://www.commentary.org/articles/waldo-frank/the-central-problem-of-modern-man/
A Revolution in Attention: Perceptual awakening in Iain McGilchrist’s work.
You know what I find most interesting about the “new” “glocalization” movement? It’s not new. We were living this way just a couple of generations ago. In fact, my bus driver and I were conversing only a few minutes ago about the way life was when we were ‘younguns’ and it was precisely this way. Local and regional community, self-sufficiency and cooperation; neighbor helping neighbor; etc. None of this is new.
In our time, neoliberal globalization is the artificail aberration and exception to the rule of how communities and, even, entire societies naturally evolved to exist — in harmony with the natural world and each other as opposed to pitted against them.
Hopefully, it’s catching on like wildfire. Too bad it took Covid and the bird flu to show us just how fragile global supply chains and unsustainable living are. — https://youtu.be/dQw2hIob15w
https://www.joycecollinsmith.co.uk/other-works/the-spiral-of-life-and-astrology
Scott, This article above mentions, “The Looking Glass God.”
Dear Scott, having read your blogs for years now, I want to thank you for your bright insights. I understand your physical condition is poor, if not periodes, and I would like to wish you well!
Thanks. I’m getting along so far.
https://www.wcbi.com/arkansas-woman-arrested-accused-of-making-bomb-threats-in-oxford/
Good Lord. I guess just say you’re a woman and they call you a woman, then? Never mind the mental illness. I just had to read the headline to know we’re doomed.
This idea that Tarkovsky isn’t expressing ideas in his films seems off the mark to me. I mean, if he feels that art needs to prepare people for death, his art is inevitably going to convey the idea that death is something that one needs to be prepared for.
A lot of Christian art seems to portray ideas. All of those frescoes and icons and the cathedrals themselves seem to fill a propagandistic purpose. Overwhelm the audience with beauty and surely they will conclude that if being Christian means that you get to be surrounded by beauty then conversion is just a no-brainer.
Another thing, Neo-Platonism, as far as I know, seems to fail to make a distinction between beauty and attractiveness. Surely the siren’s song is attractive, some would say beautiful, but it doesn’t lead you to the true and the good in the manner that Neo-Platonic notions of beauty are supposed to.
What gives?
” The infinite God so transcends the created cosmos and any of our thoughts about Him that his Infinity can only be expressed through a vast multiplicity of revelations. There is no Absolute in this world. The Absolute can only be expressed through relativity. The obviousness of this often seems stunning to me, but it is certainly no so too many people. The idea that God must speak with many voices is of central importance for any attempt to save the monotheistic tradition from the dominance of Single Vision and a pathological monotheism of consciousness.”
Imaginal Love by Tom Cheetham
I’m in the process of moving to the city. Very time consuming. Have to be moved by April 1.
April Fools? Not the most pleasant undertaking. Wishing you well. ^.^
Hi Scott!
Here’s Greer on Gebser: https://www.ecosophia.net/against-enchantment-3-jean-gebser/
It would be interesting to hear, what you think about Greer’s assessment of Gebser.
Thanks Risto. Greer makes a crucial mistake in his interpretation of Gebser, by describing the integral consciousness as a “synthesis”. Gebser stated explicitly that his view of the integral is not a synthesis but a “synairesis”, and it seems many people have difficulty with that concept. It is not a synthesis, but the co-presence of all effective structures that continue, in one way or another, to constitute us. The “synthesis” belongs to the pyramid structure, not the mandala structure. And, yes, Gebser looked askance at occultism or what passed as “traditionalism” as just more one-sided approaches. In the case of “occultism”, understandable, since it means the contrary of the transparent or diaphainous which is so central to Gebser’s thought. When the occult becomes transparent, it ceases to be occulted.
More I can say as well. But I think I should give Greer’s remarks a second reading.
Thanks Scott! I had a feeling that you would see some shortcomings of Greer’s take on Gebser. The way I’ve understood it is that Greer is very much into cyclical view of world in Spenglerian sense, so Gebser’s model is in a way contrary to his basic propositions.
Greer is somewhat correct to say that EPO is quite Eurocentric. But Gebser corrected for that after his Asian travels, and especially his second satori experience while visiting the legendary site of the Buddha’s awakening. But I doubt Greer reads German and those follow up books haven’t been translated into English yet. Seems odd that they haven’t been.
“Nietzche, with what may justly be described as an over-emphasis, in a compulsive urge towards the creative and activating forces of life, has described the very tendency to thought itself as a kind of sickness. The processes of death which are inherent in life evoked his antagonism; and religion, which, as he very well saw, largely involved thoughts of death, he described as neurosis. He poured scorn on it, although, by the nature of his case, he was a man of deeply religious mood, unable to avoid those death impulses which he ascribed to philosophers in general. He was a man of vast-indeed-nobal-contradictions; and though described life as “an experiment of the thinker”, and as “a means to knowledge”, he said also that the deeper he looked into life the deeper he looked into pain, and looking into pain he looked into death and into love, and found love and death strangely linked and related.”
E.L Grant Watson
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Hope our host is doing well. A slightly more concise hyperlink, if you will: https://youtu.be/TDHsi-HOiQU
https://english.elpais.com/usa/2021-10-15/byung-chul-han-the-smartphone-is-a-tool-of-domination-it-acts-like-a-rosary.html
My gaze is clear like a sunflower.
It is my custom to walk the roads
Looking right and left
And sometimes looking behind me,
And what I see at each moment
Is what I never saw before,
And I’m very good at noticing things.
I’m capable of feeling the same wonder
A newborn child would feel
If he noticed that he’d really and truly been born.
I feel at each moment that I’ve just been born
Into a completely new world…
I believe in the world as in a daisy,
Because I see it. But I don’t think about it,
Because to think is to not understand.
The world wasn’t made for us to think about it
(To think is to have eyes that aren’t well)
But to look at it and to be in agreement.
I have no philosophy, I have senses…
If I speak of Nature it’s not because I know what it is
But because I love it, and for that very reason,
Because those who love never know what they love
Or why they love, or what love is.
To love is eternal innocence,
And the only innocence is not to think…
Pessoa
Man, could the world be more f____d up!
https://www.monkeyuser.com/2020/circle-of-ai-life/
” Not the Black Death, this time; the Grey Life.”
Huxley
Hey there, Steve. Awhile back you posted a great video by Mark Vernon on William Blake I wanted to share with some folks, but now he has a bunch and don’t know which was that one and don’t have time to watch them all. Do you remember that video and could maybe send me a link if so? If not, no worries.
“Our institutions will be the last to change.” ~ Scott Preston, Early 2000’s
Just putting that back out there.
Hello again. Made the transition to the city, not without some injury to a foot. Slowly getting acclimatised to urban life again. Now scheduled for dialysis and an appointment sometime over the next couple of weeks with the surgeon. Thanks for hanging in there while I’ve been neglectful of the blog.
You haven’t been neglectful. You’ve been absent and we completely understand. Abstentia is just what the doctor ordered on occasion, if anyone were to ask me. No one asks me, of course, but who cares? 🙂
Very much on my mind today as much as is the highly questionable industry trends among video game publishers, if not developers, to go “corporate,” in far more ways than one.
I could go into a monologue about “entertainment,” what it is (or should be) and isn’t, etc., but I’ll spare you all that.
There’s a meme criss-crossing the Internet about “strong women” and how Ripley of Alien and Aliens exemplifies this as opposed to the “types” so many motion picture studios attempt to “shoehorn into” their, frankly, lackluster products.
It bears noting that Ripley was written as a – gasp! – character. Neither particularly male or female or otherwise, but a character. Ridley Scott probably had a male lead in mind when writing it originally, but that finally does not matter. Sigourney Weaver showed up for an audition; owned the part; and the rest, as they say, is film history.
Anyway. Long story short: https://youtu.be/12f0ligwS5s
Hello Scott,
I hope your life is more settled by now. I wonder if you could find the time to have a look at this article of mine where I mention you in the last paragraph, and which you will find at https://trivent-publishing.eu/home/151-pjcv-62-oswald-spengler.html:
-“European Revolutions and World War as Way Stations to Planetary Man: Rosenstock-Huessy’s Christian Rejoinder to Spengler’s Decline of the West”, in The Philosophical Journal of Conflict and Violence, Vol. VI, Issue 2/2022, pp. 63-101, https://trivent-publishing.eu/img/cms/5-%20Christian%20Roy.pdf.
As suggested in the closing lines, I am in the process of reworking some of the contents within a broader reflection about Integral thinkers’ responses to Spengler as moral thinker, especially Jean Gebser. You should also have pride of place because you take in stride Spengler, ERH and Gebser, so I would welcome any thoughts you might have in addition to what I have been able to piece together from a search of “Spengler” on your blog. My deadline is May 30, and you may contact me from my webpage mentioned in the bio after the abstract below. Thanks and best wishes, Christian
Christian Roy
Beyond Perspectivism: Some Integral Thinkers’ Critiques of Oswald Spengler as Moral Philosopher
Paper proposal for the Oswald Spengler Society conference on the topic
“Myth, fate, and duty. Oswald Spengler and Jordan Peterson as moral philosophers” for the conference Oct. 20 – 22, 2022, Blankenheimerdorf
Among contemporary analysts of shifts in the Zeitgeist, there are those who lay claim to a tradition of “Integral Thinking”, going back a century, that approaches human history as a series of mutations in consciousness. Scott Preston thus writes in his blog The Chrysalis that “Oswald Spengler made himself famous for describing the rise and fall of civilisations in such seasonal terms, although his pessimistic conclusions about that (in The Decline of the West) have been rejected by philosophers like Jean Gebser and Rosenstock-Huessy as too fatalistic and deterministic.” In The Ever-Present Origin (Ursprung und Gegenwart, 1949, 1953), Jean Gebser (1905-1973) dismisses the voluntaristic defence of essentialized origin in “Vitalists like Spengler, who place the power principle at the forefront of their conception of history—evidence of their predominantly magical thinking”, contrasted to subsequent mythic, mental, and integral stages in Gebser’s thought. Like Toynbee’s, it eschews the “biological determinism” of Spengler’s “linear succession” of stages, to “place structural elements and interdependence in the foreground” of an emerging atemporal, aperspectival, “post-Faustian” consciousness, as adumbrated in modern art. “Since Spengler did not discern a task either for the arts or for the other areas of our lives, he wrote off the West”, while “it has befallen our generation to perceive and resolve the task entrusted to us”(Gebser): neither resigned surrender nor vain clinging to decadent, revamped or recycled historical formations and power configurations, but instead, to help further the consolidation of that “aperspectival epoch that began to emerge during the latter half of the nineteenth century. (…) Thus, the Decline of the West is really about the Decline of the perspectival (i.e., late rational) consciousness structure, and this is where Gebser’s philosophy begins”, as Spengler’s “antidote”(John David Ebert). For Scott Preston, “’Inter-being’ and the complementarity principle are the keystones of the new age emerging. Rosenstock-Huessy, like Jean Gebser, tried to prepare us for this transition. (…) Rosenstock-Huessy worked towards a ‘universal history’ of the human experience of the Earth as necessary foundation for any successful ‘planetary civilisation’.” His article “Planetary Man: In Memoriam Oswald Spengler” (New English Weekly, 1946) marked a decade since Spengler’s demise upon realizing that Hitler’s advent meant the “West” had come to a premature end, two centuries before its scheduled fate.The Decline of the West he portrayed remained a challenge Eugen Rosenstock-Huessy (1888-1973) spent his whole life answering as a “counter-reactionary”, arguing for a duty to embrace rather than fight the fulfilment of Western Christianity’s drive to gather the ends of the world and bring it to its end as one planet, as a worthier task than any defensive clash of civilizations.
Christian Roy (Ph.D. McGill 1993) is a Montreal-based cultural historian, art critic, film scholar, and multilingual translator, e.g. of Carl Schmitt (Légalité et légitimité, Presses de l’Université de Montréal, 2015), Bernard Charbonneau (The Green Light, Bloomsbury, 2018) and Jacques Ellul (Theology and Technique, Wipf & Stock, forthcoming). His independent research focuses on the latter two authors and other neglected figures of the French Personalist tradition, and also extends to Paul Tillich, Eugen Rosenstock-Huessy, Oswald Spengler, H.P. Lovecraft, Georges Bataille, George Grant, Marshall McLuhan, etc. (See https://roychristian.academia.edu/.)
What a surprise! Thanks Christian. Hopefully will find some time today to read that. Unfortunately, I’m presently hospitalised with stage 5 kidney disease and cancer , and in a great deal of discomfort and fatigue. But I have moments during the day when I seem to return to “normal” and can concentrate on reading. I’ll use one of those moments to read your work when it comes.
We’re right there with you. I hope you know what that means and find some comfort in it.
Thanks for sharing.
All the best for you Scott!
Thanks Scott for your decades of insight and articulate wisdom. It’s an extraordinary gift you have left with your readers. To the grace that is ever-present. Heartfelt gratitude
Thanks so much, Peter. I had surgery today for dialysis — bit of an ordeal. Marginal improvement in my condition after first session, with 2 more to follow in rapid succession. Feeling a little more alert and less fatigued after the first one.
Well wishes for you Scott. Sorry to hear that you are in pain. I have a great deal of gratitude for your thoughts and service in making some sense of our existence and helping me understand my readings of Gebser. Julia Assante has some soothing meditations and interviews on the subject of life and death. Nothing to fear in the end of our new beginning should it come to that. You are loved no matter what happens. Sending you gratitude and peace.
So sorry for everything Scott. Don’t want to reinforce any taboo or fear of death, and also want you to feel better. A tough spot of thought and feeling to communicate to the people we care about. Take care now. Glad to hear you are doing better (didn’t see your last comment about surgery).
Thanks John.I appreciate it.
Are you saying that you also have kidney cancer as well as stage 5 kidney disease ?